do you think that the fact that the media environment that they were in, this overheated media environment really intensifies the impact of these big events? >> absolutely. look, there's no question about it. mitt romney had a stronger night. president obama didn't bring his a game. no good, terrible night for president obama, now everybody looks back and says wow, this was a debacle. he got creamed. it wasn't that bad but the media echo chamber exaggerates that. >> i want to play what congressman gingry said to me earlier. here is a quote. primary is always going to lean right. then you come back to the center for the general. here is a little bit of our conversation. >> my question is what you said is during the campaign, you lean to the right and then you come back to the center when you're actually in the general election. so to me, that is you say one thing for a certain audience, to get them to support you, and then you say something different, maybe completely contradictory to another audience, which some could define as lying. so is that what we're seeing? >> and some could refer t